LINTON PARISH COUNCIL

Bromsash Gorsley and Linton

 

Minutes Of The Meeting Held On September 8th 2003

In Linton Village Hall At 7:30 p.m.

 

Present:

Cllr Richard Smith , Chairman

Cllr Jean Foley, Vice Chairman

Cllr Ken Downham

Cllr John Foley

Cllr Keith Summers

Cllr John Wheble

 

Brian Atherton (Clerk)

 

10 Parishioners attended.

                                                                                                                                                                 

Minute Item

 

Action

 

 

 

 

1

 

Apologies

 

 

1.1

Cllrs Rob Crawford, Audrey Duke, Margaret Pearce and Gary Woodman.

 

 

2

 

Declarations of Interest

 

 

2.1

None; the Chairman said that he would invite Cllr Jean Foley to take the chair for Item 9.

 

 

3

 

Minutes of the Meeting Held on 11th August 2003

 

 

3.1

With one correction to a typing error (Item 11.1 – D992, for Sore read Store) these were accepted as a true record and duly signed by the Chairman.

 

 

4

 

Matters Arising Not Covered in the Agenda

 

 

4.1

Item 5.4 – Lack of Reply From Mr Colyer. The Chairman has chased, without result and will try once more.

Cllr Richard Smith

 

4.2

Item 11.2 – Seeking Cooperation over Road Closures. The Clerk reported that the correspondence has now been forwarded to Stephen Oates, the head of department and a reply is awaited from him.

The Clerk

 

5

 

Roadmaker Inn

 

 

5.1

The Chairman read out D1028 from Miss S L Wilson, Environmental Health Officer (Commercial). The Clerk was asked to reply with thanks for the letter and ask for clarification of the items inspected or to be inspected, with special reference to the filtration.

The Clerk

 

6

 

Lengthsman Project

 

 

6.1

Cllr John Foley reported that two parishioners have complimented the Lengthsman for his work and other Councillors mentioned that they had heard favourable comment.

 

 

6.2

The Clerk reported that, as Administrator, he had heard two criticisms, one from Lea and one from Linton, where the Lengthsman had cut overhanging hedge or growth encroaching onto the footways. These criticisms arose from a lack of understanding of statutory requirements. The Clerk said that, in future, he will write to relevant owners just prior to any such cutting, giving notice that it will be done and explaining why.

 

 

6.3

Cllr Ken Downham asked for a dead branch to be removed from the road between his location and the Alma Inn.

The Lengthsman

 

6.4

The two proposed “nominated tasks” at Talbot’s Well and Quarry Lane can not be done under that arrangement as they do not affect the highway. Council, therefore, decided to put both subjects on the Agenda for the next meeting, to discuss whether Parish funds should be used.

The Clerk

 

7

 

Evaluation of Electronic Distribution of Documents

 

 

7.1

Unfortunately, the volume of documentation is still too great for fast emailing, even using the technology so kindly offered by Cllr Rob Crawford. Therefore the initiative has had to be abandoned.

 

 

8

 

Parish Footpath Partnership

 

 

8.1

Cllr Jean Foley announced that funds of £50 a Km are available for footpath maintenance and the (14.6km) footpath length in the Parish would attract £730. The scheme can operate in conjunction with the Lengthsman. The Clerk will arrange for a presentation to the next meeting.

The Clerk.

 

9

 

Letter from Parishioner Phil Page re Council Standards

 

 

9.1

Cllr Richard Smith vacated the Chair in favour of Cllr Jean Foley but remained in the room.

 

 

9.2

Cllr Jean Foley read out an opinion which addressed each of the points raised in Parishioner Page’s letter.

 

 

9.3

Cllr Ken Downham said that Cllr Foley had obviously done her homework and that, in his opinion, Cllr Richard Smith’s originally anonymous donation was merely an extension of the spirit of giving found with all Councillors.

 

 

9.4

Cllr Keith Summers and John Wheble both spoke in support of the web site.

 

 

9.5

Cllr Jean Foley said that, whilst she had been sceptical in the beginning, she was now grateful to Cllr Richard Smith for the web site initiative as it is demonstrating its usefulness to the community.

 

 

9.6

Parishioner Phil Page said that he “stands corrected” on the points raised in his letter. Proposed by Cllr Jean Foley, seconded by Cllr Ken Downham and approved unanimously (Cllr Richard Smith abstaining) , IT WAS AGREED that the Clerk will write to Parishioner Page, enclosing a copy of the “opinion” and providing contact details for the Standards Board for England should the Parishioner wish to take the matter further. A copy of the “opinion” is also attached to these minutes.

The Clerk

 

9.7

Cllr Richard Smith then resumed the Chair.

 

 

10

 

Risk Assessment Return

 

 

10.1

The Clerk’s proposals had been circulated. Councillors suggested that it should include an audit of Trees by the Trees Officer and that it should be spelt out that the Internal Audit includes a Bank Reconciliation check. Another suggestion was to consult Wyenet, CHDC’s web master and HALC on the question of web site security. The Clerk will incorporate the suggestions and circulate again.

The Clerk

 

11

 

Accounts, Treasurer’s Report and Authorisation of Payment of Accounts

 

 

11.1

The Clerk tabled a letter to Lloyds TSB, authorising the Clerk to make transfers between Council’s Current and Deposit Accounts and requesting automatic transfers by the bank, to maximise interest earnings in the deposit account. Proposed by Cllr Keith Summers, seconded by Cllr John Foley and approved unanimously, IT WAS AGREED to send this letter which was then duly signed.

 

 

11.2

Accounts for the year to date were tabled and noted.

 

 

11.3

Proposed by Cllr Richard Smith, seconded by Cllr Jean Foley and approved unanimously, IT WAS AGREED to pay the following invoices and the cheques were duly signed.

 

 

AP130

Lengthsman for August

284.00

AP131

Clerk's Salary for August 2003

180.00

AP132

Clerk's Expenses for August 2003

4.79

AP133

Lengthsman Administrator’s Fee for August 2003

28.40

AP134

Web Master's Time in August 2003

17.25

 

 

12

 

Working Party Reports

 

 

12.1

Planning

 

 

 

P86. DCSE2003/1890/F. First floor extension over garage with balcony to rear. 9 Ivy House Lane, Gorsley. Permission granted on 06/08/03.

 

 

 

P87. DCSE2003/1931/F. Conservatory Extension. Barland, Sargeants Lane, Kilcot, Newent, Herefordshire, GL18 1PF. Permission granted on 06/08/03.

 

 

 

P89. DCSE2003/2051/F. Change of use of part of agricultural store for timber storage. Great Woodend Farm, Linton, HR9 7SR. The applicant has seen the minutes on the web site and wants to meet with Council. The Clerk has not received a response from CHDC’s Charlotte Atkins and will chase that. Cllr Jean Foley will arrange for a group of Councillors, possibly including John Wheble, John Foley and the Chairman to meet with the applicant on either September 15th or 19th.

 

 

The Clerk

Cllr Jean Foley

 

 

P90. DCSE2003/2443/F. Conversion of barns to form swimming pool and granny annexe and proposed conservatory to main dwelling. Cothers Farm, Gorsley, HR9 7SE. Cllr Jean Foley will arrange a site visit and is authorised to comment directly to CHDC in the light of that.

Cllr Jean Foley

 

 

P91. DCSE2003/2493/O. Site for the erection of a bungalow. IGLS, Quarry Lane, Gorsley, HR9 7SJ. Cllr Jean Foley will check the history and arrange a site visit. However, Council felt that the development was inappropriate. Cllr Jean Foley’s working party is authorised to make a decision bearing in mind the general opposition from public present.

Cllr Jean Foley

 

 

P92. DCSE2003/2465/F. Demolition of side porch and elimination of sun room. Lilly Hall, Darnell's Lane, Gorsley, HR9 7SG. Council supported.

 

 

12.2

Highways.

 

 

12.2.1

The surface water drainage at Revells Farm has not been attended to, despite Council’s meeting with Jim Smith of CHDC over a year ago. The Clerk will enquire whether the Lengthsman can deal with it.

The Clerk

 

12.2.2

Run-off from farm land North of Burton Mill creates a road safety hazard. The Clerk will write to Brian Lea, CHDC’s drainage officer to enquire what can be done.

The Clerk

 

12.2.3

There is a pothole near Toad Hall on Linton Ridge. The Clerk will see what can be done.

The Clerk

 

12.3

Footpaths

 

 

12.3.1

Cllr John Foley reported that the Brownies will assist with a survey this month.

 

 

12.3.2

The footpath along the back of the village hall car park, towards the Church at Linton is falling into disrepair. The PCC is looking into it.

 

 

13

 

Chairman’s Announcements

 

 

13.1

The Chairman was unable to attend CHDC's Customer Service Standards launch.

 

 

13.2

CHDC’s Patrick Clarke has asked for a personal article on the Parish Plan Initiative which the Chairman has provided, using previously published material.

 

 

14

 

Correspondence

 

 

14.1

The following correspondence was either tabled at the meeting or had previously been circulated.

 

 

D1024

13-Aug-03

Standards Committee Determinations - Guidance for monitoring officers and Standards Committees

Standards Board for England

D1025

15-Aug-03

Annual Report

Marches Housing Association

D1026

21-Aug-03

Invitation to Chairman for CHDC's Customer Services Standards Launch on Sep 3rd.

CHDC

D1027

21-Aug-03

Bromsash Speed Survey reports

CHDC

D1028

22-Aug-03

Letter re Roadmaker

CHDC

D1029

22-Aug-03

South Herefordshire Rural Transport Forum Minutes

SHVA

D1030

22-Aug-03

Rural Services Standard 2003 Flyer for Notice Boards

DEFRA

D1031

26-Aug-03

Bromsash Speed Limit Extension Request

Peter Gibbons

D1032

26-Aug-03

Gorsley & Kilcot Minutes

G&KPC

D1033

01-Sep-03

Community Bus Services - Newent to Cliffords Mesne - Any need from Linton?

Newent Town Council

D1034

01-Sep-03

A free website for parish councils

Thelocalchannel.co.uk

D1035

02-Sep-03

Hereford Cultural Consortium Newsletter

Herefordshire Partnership

D1036

02-Sep-03

Meetings Schedule

CHDC

D1037

02-Sep-03

Forward Plan

CHDC

D1038

02-Sep-03

Electric Blanket Testing Schedule

CHDC

D1039

02-Sep-03

Parish Council Contact Details

CHDC

 

 

 

The Chairman read out D1031 and D1033. The Clerk will respond to the latter and submit a brief piece for the Chimes, to determine interest. Deadline 17th September.

The Clerk will publicise D1038 on web site.

The Clerk

 

 

Councillors requested copies of the following:

Cllr John Wheble: D1029, 1034, 1037.

Cllr Keith Summers: D1032, 1036, 1039.

Cllr Richard Smith: D1027, 1028, 1030, 1031, 1033, 1035, 1039.

The Clerk

 

15

 

Councillor’s Submissions, including Village Events

 

 

15.1

Cllr Ken Downham

The deadline for submissions to the Chimes this month is September 17th.

 

 

15.2

Cllr John Foley

There was an attempted burglary at the Bromsash nursery this month. Perhaps Bromsash should have a Neighbourhood Watch. The Chairman said he was sure that, should Bromsash residents so decide, Gorsley Neighbourhood Watch group would be pleased to assist.

 

 

16

 

Quality Council & Parish Plan, including Questionnaire Compilation (Keypoint)

 

 

16.1

The Clerk explained that Questionnaire compilation is proving to be a slow process, the first page having taken some 5.5 hours. This is because the software is inflexible in layout and because of the need to test each question to make sure that responses, when entered, will lead to a meaningful analysis. He tabled an example of the first page and, apart from typing errors, Councillors decided that it should set the standard for the complete document.

 

 

16.2

Some discussion of the detail of each the questions led to the decision that those tabled at the last meeting should remain unaltered other than the addition of “bungalow” to the housing options in Q5.

The Clerk

 

17

 

Appointment of a Governor to Gorsley Goffs School

 

 

17.1

Cllr John Wheble volunteered to progress Council’s proposal that Cllr Jean Foley be its nominated representative.

 

 

18

 

Public Submissions

 

 

18.1

A parishioner pointed out that the Council’s web site address is not widely publicised. In particular it is not shown on the notice boards. Council decided that it should be added to all copies of the Agenda.

The Clerk

 

19

 

Items for Consideration at the Next Meeting

 

 

19.1

Display of Parish Maps in the Village Halls.

 

 

20

 

Date of the Next Meeting: Monday 13th October, Gorsley Village Hall at 7:30 p.m.

 

 

The Meeting Finished At  10:06 p.m.

 


LETTER FROM MR P. PAGE RE:-ALLEGED BREACH OF STANDING ORDERS.

 

1. Has the Chairman breached Standing Orders by not declaring an interest, possibly a pecuniary interest, as he was the ‘secret donor’ who donated £200 to set up the web site?

No, he has not, as a councillor you must declare a personal interest as soon as you are aware that you might benefit more than most other people in the parish, from the outcome of a discussion.  A councillor must then consider if the interest is also prejudicial, that is, if your personal interest will prejudice your judgement of the public interest.  This was clearly not the case, neither the donor nor his family received any personal advantage nor did it convey any prejudice to the public.

 

2.  Has he also breached Standing Orders by entering into discussion on the web site?

 

No, he has not, even if a councillor has a personal interest (but not prejudicial) he/she may stay in the meeting contribute to discussions and vote.

 

3.  Was the resolution to continue the web site, at a cost not exceeding £650 for one year, proposed by the Chairman, seconded by Cllr. Jean Foley and carried unanimously by the Council legal and valid?

Yes.

 

4. May I ask if this is the act of a Quality Council.

We have not yet applied to become a Quality Council, we are however confident that when the Parish Plan is completed we shall be in a position to meet the required criteria.  Communications are very important, 5 items are mandatory, a further 17 are discretionary but we are expected to comply with at least 9 of them including having a web-site.  So the answer to the question is yes.

 

5. History of the web-site............

I’d like to dispose of the accusation that this was a ‘secret donation’, it wasn’t, it was an ‘anonymous donation’, a secret donation would have meant that we were not only unaware of the donor’s name but were unaware of the donation!  An anonymous donation meant that we were aware of a very generous donation but not the name of the donor.  There was nothing secret or underhand - no conditions were attached, it was just a straightforward donation to allow the council to build a web-site, this together with the Clerk’s offer to donate his labour to build the web-site free of charge could not have been more generous.  It allowed the Parish Council to try out new technology for the benefit of the electorate at no cost to the electorate.  Discussions continued at the meetings in May, June, July and August the general consensus (with the exception of Cllr. Page) being that the web-site should be built.  At any time during those months Councillor Page was free to put forward any resolution with regard to the web-site he wished, he did not take the opportunity.

 

6.  Mr Page claims that his questions prove that there have been breaches of standing orders 10 & 15.

 

Mr Page has confused the guidelines for Chairmanship with Standing Orders.

The points to which he refers are dealt with at paragraphs 9, 10, 11, 54, 55, & 56 of Standing Orders, and the wording is different.  It is my opinion that these orders have not been breached, inasmuch that every councillor was able to discuss and indicate their agreement or disagreement with a decision to have a Parish Council web-site.  There is no doubt that the majority of councillors were in agreement, if this were not so there would have been many more complaints and calls for alterations to the minutes, there were none.

The Council have unanimously decided to continue the web-site for a further year. During this time the questionnaire will have been delivered to the electorate and we shall be able to take account of their views when making a decision on its retention in 2004.